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Thursday, July 17, 2008

Criminal Minds Fanfic Rant - So Close

Before I get to that, I am much amused by the fact that the single Emmy nomination the show gets is for stunt coordination for Tabula Rasa.  While I think people are too free and easy in what they categorize as a tackle, (and I include this episode) just the fact that someone said the nomination came because Morgan "tackled" a building is grounds for glee.  You can't deny the power of the tackle - even fake tackles.

Now, I'm just slightly sad by a fanfic.  The author was so close.  Well, not really.  It wasn't a fic I could read straight through.  I skipped around chapters, because it was mainly just finding horrific things for the team to go through, sort of like really macabre Russian Roulette.  But, despite the lack of real plot that I could see, I felt she was fairly accurate with the character of Hotch, given the circumstances.  But, then, she had to turn him into a drunk and constantly call to try and get Haley back.  My view that Hotch would not try to win Haley back is likely influenced by another Hotch fan, who pointed out that not once did he try to do that on the show.  While I disagree that doing that is about self entitlement and ego (it could be, but it's not the only interpretation of everyone who tries for a second chance) it is true that Hotch didn't.  And, I think he wouldn't, mainly because the job is who he is, and if she can't accept that and it bothers her so much, she wouldn't be happy being with him.  I also got the feeling that the author mainly decided that if the whole team goes through a series of tragedies that leaves them all with some wounds -emotional for some, physical for most- that one person has to be the fall guy to break completely.  And, it just felt tacked on that it was Hotch.  And, she topped it off with him committing suicide.  While Hotch dying is never on my list of great reading experiences, I think I could find it well written possibly if done by someone else's hand, in the line of duty or something.  But, I just don't see Hotch killing himself, no matter what happened.  I don't see this, either, I just see it more easily than suicide - murder.  I mean, Hotch committing murder.  I've always felt that if Hotch ever went bad and pigs flew and demons had snow ball fights in Hell, that he would kill someone else and then turn himself in.  But, suicide is too cowardly for Hotch.  And, then, it just ended so abruptly with them finding the body - the end.  If you kill a main character, there should be some real ending.  A slight epilogue (even a paragraph's worth) giving some idea of how it affects the others, or how they carried on despite him, or something.  Not just "dead man - bye!"


And, while I'm ranting, I find it icky to have Hotch described as a "poor sweet baby"  I get feeling compassion if something horrible happens to him, but the "sweet baby" seems more accurate to a pitiful character, not someone as awesome as Hotch.


Criminal Minds Fanfic Rant - So Close

Before I get to that, I am much amused by the fact that the single Emmy nomination the show gets is for stunt coordination for Tabula Rasa.  While I think people are too free and easy in what they categorize as a tackle, (and I include this episode) just the fact that someone said the nomination came because Morgan "tackled" a building is grounds for glee.  You can't deny the power of the tackle - even fake tackles.

Now, I'm just slightly sad by a fanfic.  The author was so close.  Well, not really.  It wasn't a fic I could read straight through.  I skipped around chapters, because it was mainly just finding horrific things for the team to go through, sort of like really macabre Russian Roulette.  But, despite the lack of real plot that I could see, I felt she was fairly accurate with the character of Hotch, given the circumstances.  But, then, she had to turn him into a drunk and constantly call to try and get Haley back.  My view that Hotch would not try to win Haley back is likely influenced by another Hotch fan, who pointed out that not once did he try to do that on the show.  While I disagree that doing that is about self entitlement and ego (it could be, but it's not the only interpretation of everyone who tries for a second chance) it is true that Hotch didn't.  And, I think he wouldn't, mainly because the job is who he is, and if she can't accept that and it bothers her so much, she wouldn't be happy being with him.  I also got the feeling that the author mainly decided that if the whole team goes through a series of tragedies that leaves them all with some wounds -emotional for some, physical for most- that one person has to be the fall guy to break completely.  And, it just felt tacked on that it was Hotch.  And, she topped it off with him committing suicide.  While Hotch dying is never on my list of great reading experiences, I think I could find it well written possibly if done by someone else's hand, in the line of duty or something.  But, I just don't see Hotch killing himself, no matter what happened.  I don't see this, either, I just see it more easily than suicide - murder.  I mean, Hotch committing murder.  I've always felt that if Hotch ever went bad and pigs flew and demons had snow ball fights in Hell, that he would kill someone else and then turn himself in.  But, suicide is too cowardly for Hotch.  And, then, it just ended so abruptly with them finding the body - the end.  If you kill a main character, there should be some real ending.  A slight epilogue (even a paragraph's worth) giving some idea of how it affects the others, or how they carried on despite him, or something.  Not just "dead man - bye!"


Posters - Don't post if you don't want a response

First, seems I was right and the person on the imdb boards wasn't a troll.  They haven't changed their views about the show, but they have acknowledged what other people might see in it.

Now, on to the rant.  There are some forums where it's clear who's welcome in a thread.  Like the Gilmore Girls forum (sorry, people!  The obsession turned).  There are clear anti and pro threads, where a certain pov is off topic for those places.  You can also find it in a certain Stargate forum.  But, barring trolls, for the most part, when you start a post on a forum, you've given an open invitation for any on topic response - even if that response is in disagreement with what you say.  And, to get defensive that someone answered is silly. 

Oh, and something that happened awhile back, but I just found when doing a search for more Criminal Minds stuff.  Got into a little kerfluffle when someone said that Hotch would blow up because he hates his job.  Taking out the whole issue that I don't believe Hotch does hate his job, life doesn't work like that.  You hate a situation in life, and through no action of your own, you end up hurt so that you no longer have to be in that situation.  I said if Hotch hated his job so much, it would make the decision to leave on his own, rather than a twist of fate and a bomb from someone who doesn't know about the alleged hate.  Well, how dare I disagree with the person!  She got totally snippy.  Then, I go back recently and find that I missed a response.  Hotch wouldn't be leaving.  The actor would be going.  Woah!  Dizzy!  I'm not a fly on the wall of the show, but the last thing TG publicly said about the show gave the impression that he likes his job.  So, this person is saying that an actor will quit a job he likes because the character he plays doesn't (supposedly) like the fictional job on the fictional show?  Isn't that taking method acting a little far?  Or, she's saying that the writers created the alleged dislike of the job and to top it off are punishing him with an explosion?  If the reason Hotch leaves (since people persist in believing that the person is being taken off the show) has to do with his own views of the job, wouldn't it make more sense for the character to actively decide to go? 


Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Criminal Minds - Being hit with the "Why do you watch" twice in a week?

So, twice people have come to the imdb board for the show and asked why people watch shows like this.  One person clearly just wanted to spout out why they think the show sucks (always wonder why they want to spout off in a place where you assume the fans are - well, aside from just sheer jerkiness) and wanted others to back them up.  Not at all interested in the question of why others watch.  A second person, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that they really did wonder and wanted to hear why people like a show that they didn't find any value in.  Maybe I'm taking "I'm not a troll" too much at face value.  Although I did point out that saying the fans "must be aware that the show is rubbish" is condescending. 

Anyway, I answered.  Well, a partial answer, rebutting the idea that the characters are one dimensional.  He (one day I'll figure out why I assume some posters are male and others are female without any proof) went after Hotch! 

But, my main point of this is to say I see a common denominator between the two.  They look at shows as types.  The first, clearly troll person, has a thing about network shows.  They're no good, to him.  I looked at some of his other posts on other boards, and the term "network show" is always used sneeringly.  Other shows are better than network shows or how can people watch network shows?  I get the impression that if The Shield or the Sopranos (shows he used as examples of good shows) had come on the networks, his opinion wouldn't be so high of them either.  As for the other person, it's purely speculation on my part, but I get the feeling that they see a big gulf between people who watch things like Battlestar Gallactica and people who watch Criminal Minds.  You watch the former, you're into intelligent original stuff (ignoring that BG is a remake) and the latter is for people into mass marketed crime shows. 


Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Some Fanfic Guidelines

1.  How you write for a school paper and how you write fanfic are different.  You don't use contractions in a formal paper, but in dialogue?  If you're writing a modern day English speaking person (I don't have any knowledge of the language patterns of other languages), yes.  Unless that particular character has been shown to not use contractions. 

2.  It sounds weird, but first person probably doesn't dig as deep into the thoughts as third person.  I mean when the third person is still following a particular character.  (I forget the exact term for it)  The thing is, I doubt most people think in great detail about their feelings or motivations.  They may think that they're furious, but they're not going to literally go into detail about how their face turned red and they shook with rage and it was like a thundercloud was over their head.  Some omniscient narrator might (only in a better written way than that).  Lots of things that sound right in third just sound wrong and overdoing it in first.

3.  On a more specific note, House is never going to pour out his entire heart in great detail to Wilson - or anyone.  He might, if push comes to shove, give you the gist of something, but actually saying everything he said at the end of Wilson's Heart to Wilson?  No.  Repeating the dialogue in fanfic?  Not working, because the only reason he said that was because he wasn't talking to anyone but his own subconscious in the form of a dead woman.  The guy is only 100% candid about those icky feeling things when he's talking to an hallucination.





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