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Thursday, August 31, 2006
 

Concerning Preaching

Thanks for the comments balticblond on my last post, I always appreciate your input.

I have read Pagitt's book on preaching and have incorporated a lot of what he discusses there. I am trying to tell the story of the Bible when I preach or give my talks. I always incorporate a significant amount of time at the end for discussion within the group. Kelyje is small enough where it works quite well, and I think people like it. I think what I am looking for is that my preaching would me less didactic, and more narrative. I guess my very modern background weighs heavily on me; slowing me down.

I have totally abandoned the three points all starting with "C" kind of thing. Thanks for reminding me about being self-disclosing. I really need more of that in my talks. I am quite open in my relationships, but need to be more so in my talks.

Beyond acknowledging regularly that I don't have it all figured out yet, I am not sure how to teach truth in an inclusive way. I am still trying to get my mind around truth that is not exclusive, especially when you have done the biblical work and have testimonies to demonstrate.

Welcoming people to come along side our lives is really a lot of what we are doing at this time. We are just getting started here.

"Think of teaching as bringing folks along side your life as you live and learn, inviting them into your experience of faith-- " I like that.

gera nuotrauka dude!

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I agree-- life communicating to a pomo small group is probably and antually way more narrative than... say  it was a church of 200 or 2000 the approach might be more sytematic in terms of clearing teaching. Or should it?  I don't know, it seems Jesus used a mix ot telling a story and teaching-- in a room he might give us a parable of seeds etc. On the mountaintop, a teaching like the Beatitudes (of course he didn't give it a title, he just communicated).

On being inclusive, I think the thing is we need to let the Word speak to hearts without us adding our value judgement.  That is the great thing about teaching through the word. So we need to refrain from drawing application to things like current political issues etc., and let the word be the word.  We do need to communicate and teach people to read the word for themselves and learn to interpret the word based on what it meant to the hearers, rather than through our contemporary lenses.

A small bit of local irony.  Imago Dei the church Don Miller (Blue Like Jazz) goes to, is considered generally the quintsential pomo church in Portland. We'd expect their service to be highly interactive, narratibe and creative. Au contrare.... it is a basic worship service-- they include Communion each week, and teaching is generally Calvary Chapelesque-- textual, verse by verse running commentary style. As a community they tend to filter what God says through their high socially aware, ecologically aware and generally politically liberal lenses.  (It is interesting to see a new rise in what we would call "liberal" Christian churches where a Republican is the exception-- I think that is going to by more typical in this generation).

I would suspect in a country like LT, historically people expect the church to tell them what to believe rather than tp be independent hearers of the word. And I think people are conditioned to want us to "just tell them" what the right position is rather than to critically think through things with the aid of the Holy Spirit.

I find it challenging to let an issue go when I hear an opinion that is clearly significantly different from what I believe and I sense uncertainty in the young adult voicing it.  At a certain point I need to trust that some times that person needs to walk with their idea and test it out a little without me intervening. In discussion its hard for our older vet staff to be secure enough to let those views be voiced without challenging all of them.

Probably went off on a rabbit trail there.

Posted 9/1/2006 1:55 AM by balticblond - reply

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That isn't to say we avoid discussions based on principle, or soft sell what the word says on issues.  But we need to make sure we're basing our input (our personal comentary) on Scriptural universal principle and not on cultural, personal, denominational or generational ones.  And we need to make sure we're teaching our young adults to do the same. They need to learn to read something it its originating context and then draw conclusions to today themselves with the help of Holy Spirit.
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