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Friday, August 20, 2004
 
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Christ and Culture
By H. Richard Niebuhr
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The Cyclical Pattern of Faith

The Cyclical Pattern of Faith intersecting Culture

(Or - Why now do I blog?)

"...they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world..." - Jesus (Jn.17:14b-15a)

277 days ago I joined this Xanga blogging site as a way to keep in touch with the people I care about, "to read, and not to write;" that was my stance! (It's not that I don't write, but I just do not believe that the anonymous public can know my thoughts without knowing my life context, so I chose to remain private here. I do write frequently on a few on-line community contexts.)

Then 172 days ago, I changed my mind and decided to "go public" promising to explain why the shift in my thinking. And I did not have the chance to post my explanation until today.

You see, for the last few thousands of years we have been trying to figure out the relationship between faith and culture. If there are two basic wet and dry positions, they would be 1) our culture blended well with our faith, or 2) our faith is separated from our culture. And if I have to pick between the wet and the dry, I would pick the dry position.

Using that framework in cyberspace, I asked: "What is the relationship between the persona and the person?" I then concluded with a dried-cut position, "Unless the readers know me as a person in my real-life context in community, they will tend to misunderstood me with my on-line persona." That's why I didn't plan to write anything here. You see how warped am I in my thinking?

Fortunately, life is not just wet and dry. In the classic book "Christ and Culture", Richard Niebuhr stated the five basic positions: "Christ AGAINST Culture", "Christ OF Culture", "Christ ABOVE Culture", "Christ and Culture in PARADOX", and "Christ the TRANSFORMER of Culture". (Go here for an abbreviate overview of each position).  The first two positions were the two basic wet and dry ends of the spectrum. The last three were variations of the mix.

And so, faith and culture is not just wet and dry. Jesus started the confusion two thousands years ago when He desired for his followers to "not be out of the world" but "not to be of the world" either (Jn.17). The question is "How?" How that relationship between faith and culture would look like? If you haven't read the link about on the overview of Niebuhr's book, now is the perfect time to hit it before we move on...

Leonard Sweet in "Soul Tsunami" had this excellent illustration about the relationship between faith and culture as a boat and water. The boat should "not be out of water, and not be 'of' (immersed-in) water" either. Is the boat wet or dry? Hhhm.. (Now you see why I started out with wet and dry positions and not black and white <grin>). 

And as the two dimensional water surface intersects the three dimensional boat, there will be misrepresentation and misunderstanding; culture won't really "get" the faith; readers will mistaken the persona for the person; miscommunication was a built-in cost of communication. After all, aren't we the humankind always the expert in miscommunication? Even after thousands of years we still haven't grasped the communication from God, even as it was directly delivered to our world - in a Person! And since there exists that mixture of intersection between faith and culture, between a persona and the person, which is unavoidable in communication; I've now changed my thinking and started posting. Can you see how warped am I still in my thinking? {Yes John, you had some thing to do with my decision, but not totally.}

But there are more. Back to the question of, "How the relationship between faith and culture would look like?" Niebuhr's book presented five options; all five could be supported by Scripture, and all five could be appropriate. How could this be? Phillip Yancey wrote, "I remember that Niebuhr's book left me feeling enlightened, but as confused as ever. All the approaches seemed to have something to contribute, and in fact, I could point to biblical examples of each one..."

Aaahh, welcome to the age of pomo, where people could hold seemingly contradictory views in contiguous space of their minds.

The problem is that we often have a "static" view of a position, rather than seeing everything as a "dynamic" view of the overall positional pattern. I am speaking non-sense here, so let me explain.

If you ask, "Are we called to be out of the world or in the world?" The answer will be "Both; it's all depends." It's all depends on where you are in the pattern, and then you take up the appropriate position. It's similar to beginner's volleyball: if you are in the back row, you dig; front row, you hit; and center, you set.

The idea came to me while I was in a Bible Study on an obscure text of Genesis 45-47 on Joseph preparing his family to migrate to Egypt. {Thanks, Yen - for your exceptionally keen observation.} At the time, Pharaoh offered generously, "I will give you the best of the land, here load your household on these cars, never mind about your stuffs, because I will give you the best here..." In contrast, Joseph carefully coached his brothers, "I will settle you in Goshen, bring everything, including your herds. When Pharaoh asks, tell him your occupation as shepherd, it's detestable to them and you can settle there at Goshen."

Joseph was a successful bi-cultured man, why would he want his family to be secluded from the Egyptian culture? Wouldn't he want them to also be successful too?

What happened here is the illustration for Joseph's grasp of faith and culture. He understood that the ultimate end is not about current culture, but about the fulfillment of faith in the Promised Land. While his steadfast faith remained vibrant as he was assimilating the Egyptian culture, climbing the Egyptian hierarchy, enjoying Egyptian food, marrying Egyptian wife and producing kids. He knew that his brothers would not last a chance in that culture. So he sheltered them up in a paralleling culture, build them strong, so that one day the Jewish culture would emerge, would struggle, and would overcome culture to receive the Promise Land.

We see God did the same thing to Moses, get them out of his people into the dessert for forty years, then sent him back in among his own people again. We see similar pattern in Jesus' ministry. He took the disciples out of the world to be with him, build them strong in Him, then sent them back in the world to make disciples and repeat the cycle. I see the similar pattern today in new believers too. Often they are cut-off from their old secular friends and influences so that they can solidify their faith, then as they are matured, they will attempt to re-enter the culture to live out their faith.

The frequent problems with this cyclical pattern is in its shape and its size. We often don't like changes and therefore we resist both the movements of God: 1) to call us out of the world as well as 2) to send us back into the world. The cycle could not complete here if we don't move. Just look around and see how many people would be willing to step out of their comfort zone today? The second problem is that some of us take way too long to complete the cycle, so by the time we re-enter the world, we no longer have any connection left to the culture. The cycle could not complete here either if the curvature of the cycle get too big. Just ask the "seasoned Christians" around and see how many friends they have left outside of church?

However, these problems are artificial problems created by our lack of responsiveness to God. Let's take the size problem for example, the cycle of faith intersect culture wasn't designed to take a long time to complete. In fact, it was designed as a series of small spirals. At least once a week, we were called out from the world into the faith community, where we are strengthen and built-up, so that we can re-engage the world again every Monday, living out the faith in the culture. Even every day, the spiritual discipline of "Quiet Time" is designed for us to be away from other distraction, to receive the nourishing strength from God so that we can re-engage the world for the rest of our day.

In Niebuhrian terms, I woke up with the "Christ against Culture", I rushed on the freeway for work and yielded for a passing car with the "Christ paradox Culture", I managed my staff with the "Christ above Culture" and I seeked business opportunities with the "Christ transform Culture" through out my day. Finally, I ended my workday hanging out in my small group with the "Christ of Culture". Does it make any sense to you at all?

With this circular pattern thinking, I decided to enroll my son into a private Christian elementary school (since I could, and therefore I should), with a clear view of the day he would have to be "salt and light" in some public high school. I told you, my thinking is so warped; now it's affecting my children!

Yes, this theory is so warped. No wonder MS Thach disagreed with it. Perhaps I am brewing some interesting heresy here. What do you think?

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...intrigued, what was MS Thach's stance?
Posted 8/23/2004 4:19 PM by anathema562 - reply

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I'm just speechless...wordless to be exact...This is some deep stuff !  I need time to dissect and digest them all...
Posted 9/1/2004 5:05 PM by Faith604 - reply

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Please tell me when you're available at school.
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Please tell me who "I 1 2 know" is, this man/woman left comments on my site. Thanks

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I am blessed.  At the college where I work, a few of us Christians gather every week for a brown-bag-lunch time of biblical discussion and prayer. My boss, a devout Catholics, started this group a while back. In the early years, sometimes it was just I and him.  But lately we have had a few regulars, some are administrators and managers, others are just workers.  At the end of this week's discussion on livingout the faith in a cultural context, my boss and I had more dialogues as we walked back to the office. I was out of time so I email him my "convoluted position" on the cyclical pattern of faith.  And tonight he replied back with the most thoughtful response to date on the subject:

Having read your thoughts, and clicked the link, let me add my own musings while my brain is still engaged.

It appears to me that the dilemma you envision arises from our human need to weave the literal threads of statements into a whole new complete garment without recognizing that there are problems with putting new wine into old wineskins.

I’m reminded of a comment about people who pursue research topics in areas of Physics. Namely, they either study the infinitesimal (electrons, neutrinos, etc.) and hence know “more and more about less and less”, or study the cosmos(universe), and hence know “less and less about more and more”.

As a Christian I believe Christ had a human nature, and a divine nature. Now for ages theologians have argued about what Christ knew about his natures, and when he knew it (i.e. did he know all along he was God?, and hence was effectively wearing a human costume and consequently his suffering would be somewhat a show; or did he not know he was God in which case some of his actions/statements could be questionable ). How about, he was both, simultaneously and harmoniously, with the relationship of each to the other a mystery that only God understands.

I believe that is how we have to understand the interaction between faith and culture. We need to be both in the world and out of the world simultaneously, and harmoniously! Do we have a body and soul at the same time? Or do we get up put on our soul and pray, then take it off and go to work, then put it on again when we have our lunch meeting, then take it off again when we eat, etc..? I don’t think so.

I believe the perfected Christian is the one who breaths air and grace at the same time with the same lungs. Who walks with Christ and in Christ at home and at work, into a church and into a bar. I doubt that Christ parked his divine nature outside when he went into the tax collectors house and then picked it up on his way out!

The tough part is saying I can do that, or even imagining how to get to that point. Yet I believe that is what we need to strive for. If we can do it, or even come close then I think we will have be close enough to God to see how all the different multi colored threads that surround us can be woven in to beautiful coat of many colors, and how the discordant sounds of the universe are simply the overture to a majestic symphony.

Simply put; the whole question about in, out, around, above, or sideways is an intellectual exercise that thinks about how to live so that we can avoid living! We need to climb down out of the tree and welcome Christ into our lives no matter how messy they appear to be.

Maybe a quest for a holy grail, but don’t expect to find it until we get there.

Wow - I think probably MS Thach may agree with my boss in the similar fashion.  After all, both of them have Ph.D. after their names...

Posted 12/14/2005 9:56 PM by I12Know Xanga True Member - reply

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I posted this today, which related to my own thought development here. To date, I think Tim Keller probably has the most theologically sounded approach to Faith intersecting Culture in America...

Faith and Culture is always an interesting topic for me.  One that I have been musing on for years now - I even have the whole cyclical view about it.  Yesterday Peter posted a clip from the documentary movie "Jesus Camp" and gripe a bit about it.  The documentary certainly has its bias and made it look like all Christians were political driven.  


According to the Variety.com website, the movie is about "Docu filmmakers Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady explore an evangelical Christian camp where faith dictates everything from one’s daily life to politics."  This statement reveals an interesting assumption that faith should be kept separately from our daily life.  But from what we have seen so far from Acts, the faith from the believers in Jesus the Christ in the first century truly requires us to figure out how to engage our daily culture.


If the movies left a bad taste in your mouth, you are in good company.


May be you are like me, constantly wrestling with the question, "and then, how shall we live our faith in this culture?"  Let me offer you a more reasonable yet not less radical alternative, one that I believe Muc Su Thach would whole heartedly agree with.  Tim Keller outline his vision of faith intersecting culture as being a Church in our Cities.  His pdf summary is available, but you really should watch his talk or listen to his mp3 to really get it.

Posted 9/6/2006 10:30 AM by I12Know Xanga True Member - reply

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Hey, man!
Your posts are always interesting and enlightening. I dub thee the West Coast Drury!
Steve, tMB 1C
Posted 9/8/2006 8:25 AM by Higain - reply


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