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Monday, March 17, 2008
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Whatcha' Cooking For Easter?
I'm going to give this blog carnival, meme, or whatever you want to call it a try. I'd like to hear from other pastors' wives on what their family cooks for Easter. If you'd like to participate, here's all you have to do:
1. write about it this week at your own site, (this will work for any blogging platform, so not limited to Xanga)
2. include a link to this post in your entry,
( http://weblog.xanga.com/PastorsWivesThriving/647406137/whatcha-cooking-for-easter.html )
3. and then come back here to add a direct link to your post (rather than just a general link to your blog) with the green Mister Linky graphic down below. You may need to leave a comment on your own blog in order to access the direct link feature.
4. if you'd like to tag your post, I'd suggest pastors' wives blogging or pws blogging, as I hope to do more of these in the future.
Also, if you have a tip on how to make cooking for the Easter Holiday easier, please write about that, too. Deadline for inclusion in this post is Monday March 24, 2008. That'll hopefully give everyone time to read the ideas if they need last-minute inspiration.
For more tips and ideas, be sure to check out what our members do for Thanksgiving and Christmas to make a nice meal as simple as possible:
http://www.pastorswives.org/real_ministers_wives/holiday_meals
I look forward to reading your posts!
- Moose
Saturday, March 15, 2008
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Message Board Update -- Looking for Affiliates
This isn't the promised post I've been working on, but wanted to let everyone know about an important website update.
We try our best to add useful content to our website at pastorswives.org for the pastor's wife who may be searching the web for help. But hands down, the most popular feature of our website has always been the message board. Sue (our webmaster) and I have chatted before about how we pay for web hosting and then use a free, ad-supported website for the pastors' wives message board, when the message board seems to be the main focus of our ministry. Over the years we've tossed ideas around, and here's where we are now:
We've always encouraged our members to remember that we do not necessarily endorse the ads that run across the top of our message boards. I've had concerns in the past, myself. However, last Saturday I saw an ad that truly horrified me. I'm sure it was a mistake, but it was the proverbial straw in my book. So... I immediately paid for ad-free and contacted Sue. She was thankful I was able to handle it and we've decided to split the cost of ad-free this month.
There was a time when I wanted to leave the service we use and set up our own forums; but with new features constantly being added, the knowledge that we couldn't take our database of valuable posts with us, and the idea of letting someone else handle the security worries; it's seeming more likely we might stay put and just pay to stay ad-free, at least for now. The problem is that ad-free has become quite expensive lately because our forums have grown in membership and activity. With an average of 200,000 page clicks per month, we could end up paying $28-$35/month just for the message board. To off-set this cost, we're exploring affiliate opportunities that will not harm our non-profit ministry status.
As much as we'd love to be completely ad-free, it just doesn't seem possible at this point. However, at least this way, the ads that will be on our site will be ones that are non-offensive and actually useful to our members. So, that's where we are right now. I already have a short list of possibilities, but if anyone has any ideas or advice, please feel free to comment or send us a message.
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Thursday, February 28, 2008
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New Look
I have a new post in the works, but until then, a short note:
Exqsme originally had the idea for this blog, and set it up back in mid-April, 2007. I think she did a fantastic job of designing it, but I changed the theme last night to make it integrate with the rest of our redesigned website at pastorswives.org. Here is the old theme for reminiscing/admiration sake:

and... I did save the theme in case we change our mind!
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Monday, November 05, 2007
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PastorsWives.Org Update
Our pastors' wives website has been experiencing difficulties since the weekend. I know many of our members use the pastorswives.org to link to get to the message boards and are probably quite frustrated by now. The good news is that the message forums are still working even though the main website is offline. If you haven't been able to get to the forums, please try this link instead:
http://www.pastorswives.proboards15.com/
I look for the website problem to be fixed soon. Until then, please accept my apologies on behalf of our web host. They are extremely frustrated right now, but they're working to get everything back online.
Sunday, October 21, 2007
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"Hmmm... I Don't Feel Very Appreciated"
If you're a fan of the videos from Big Idea, you could probably hear Mr. Nezzer's voice when you read the title of this post, as he expresses his disappointment at the lack of thanks for his "lovely gift of chocolate" (Veggie Tales' Rack, Shack & Benny). True, there are times when pastors and wives can feel overworked, under-paid, and, like fictional Mr. Nezzar, under-appreciated. Especially now, as October winds down and pastor's appreciation month comes to an end, pastors' families around the country may be feeling either special or slighted, depending on what their congregations did or didn't do and say.
I have met some pastors' wives whose churches really go all out in honoring them. Others receive some acknowledgement, while still others receive none at all. I've even met a pastor's wife or two who have served in a church where only the senior pastor was honored, as if his service to the church were the only one that was important or valued. They, as children's and/or youth pastors' wives, were even asked to contribute to the senior pastor's gift. If you've ever been in that situation, or even if you have not, this blog entry is for you.
I conducted a little research and found out that pastors' appreciation month was first established in 1992. I'm not sure by whom, but I do know that Focus on the Family was instrumental in promoting it to churches in the mid-to late 90s. It's become more well-known and publicized in recent years, and companies like Hallmark have even joined the likes of Dayspring in making clergy appreciation cards now. With the knowledge of the day, comes a little bit of expectation. It's a bit like knowing your birthday is approaching and hoping someone will say, "Happy Birthday" or send you a card.
If no one has said how much they appreciate your service to the Lord, or even if they have, let me say it to you and to all the pastors and pastors' wives who read this -- I appreciate you. We're in this together and you are a valuable member of God's team. I know how you, pastor and wife, pour of yourselves into your congregation. I know how you love them and/or strive to love when some may seem annoying, exasperating, or otherwise difficult to love. I know how you pray for them in secret and how you do things at church that many may take for granted.
I know how you, pastor's wife, sometimes may struggle to get the family out the door by yourself on Sunday morning because your husband has to be there early. I know how you felt when a church member you considered a friend gave you the cold shoulder because they were upset with your husband. I know how you've sat on pins and needles, wishing you could be a fly on the wall, while your beloved was in a tough meeting that went long.
I also know the joy you've felt as you've seen the fruit of your efforts. I've felt the amazement you've felt as you've seen God work in situations you'd deemed hopeless. I know the discomfort you felt when someone came to you for advice simply because you are the pastor's wife, and the elation you felt when God helped you guide them in His wisdom. And I know the honor and humility you've felt as you've been presented opportunities to serve that are unique to your gifts, personality, and experience. But more importantly than that--God knows, and He's cheering you on.
"For God is not unjust so as to forget your work and the love which you have shown toward His name, in having ministered and in still ministering to the saints." (Hebrews 6:10, NASB95)
Others appreciate you, too. There are Christians all over the United States and Canada who honor pastors by providing retreat and vacation facilities for pastors, wives, (and sometimes families) at little to no cost. They know your sacrifice, and they are there for you. I have personally stayed at the Cedarly retreat with my husband, and the house was a mansion. It is a beautiful place to refresh and renew, and there really was no catch. They didn't use the evening meal to pull out the multi-level marketing plan or the time-share condo opportunity. They simply wanted to encourage us.
While it is certainly neat to be honored and/or encouraged by your congregation and other Christians, I think it's even "neater" how much God values your service to Him. Did you know that there's a special crown of honor for pastors? Peter calls it the "unfading crown of glory"; or as the New Century Version words it, "a glorious crown that will never lose its beauty". (1 Peter 5:1-4)
So if pastor's appreciation day came and went without anyone noticing, and if pastor's appreciation month has been a bit disappointing, please know that God sees what you do. He sees the love, prayers, and hard work you pour into His sheep; and He says, "well done, my good and faithful servant." In the end, that's what matters the most.
"...because you know that your work in the Lord is never wasted." (1 Corinthians 15:58b, NCV)
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Friday, October 12, 2007
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Blog Housekeeping Part 2 - Email Subscriptions, Add Us To Your Site
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Thursday, September 27, 2007
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Blog Housekeeping: Submissions, RSS Feed, etc.
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Thursday, September 20, 2007
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Volunteerism
We recently received and answered a question through our website on the subject of encouraging volunteerism in the church. When a similar question recently came up on our message forums, it quickly became evident that the lack of willing workers is a widespread problem many leaders face, regardless of church size. Compounding the problem is that too often, when someone does volunteer, people are content to let them carry the burden alone until they cannot carry it anymore. Some pastors' wives also feel the frustration of having people in their church who are very involved in the community, but do little to serve within the church itself.
Below are some suggestions I gave on the subject of "Trying To Find Willing Workers". They are reprinted here in case they may be helpful to others who are not part of our message board community:
Pray for workers. Even the Bible tells us that the harvest is ripe, but the workers are few (Matt. 9:36-38). That passage really impressed upon me when we first started our latest pastorate, and one of the first things we did was pray for workers rather than for new members.
Work hard at recruiting a team for each position. As our new building is getting finished and we're finally going to be able to re-open many of our Sunday School classes, I've emphasized to each person I'm talking to that I'm not wanting them to carry the burden alone, that I'm working to have at least one other teacher so they can rotate and have time off. So, if someone is wanting to quit because they're burned out, you can try saying, "what if you take the quarter off and then rotate with ________? That'll give you a break to refresh, and it'll keep _________ from feeling burnt out like you feel now."
Find Recruiters. Some people are better at recruiting than others. It's something about their personality, enthusiasm, etc. So, look for that person or those people and put them on the task.
Reconsider Programs. When all else fails, consider cutting everything but the bare essentials to free up volunteers. What is needed more? Sunday school teachers or mid-week teachers? I know realistically that both are. But... I personally feel that the Sunday morning impression is the one that makes the most difference to visitors. We ourselves cut the mid-week program (and it stayed cut for years until we recently had a volunteer to start it back up again).
The Nursery
Many people have a specific problem finding someone to serve in the nursery. In the past, we have hired a trusted teenager in the community (with appropriate background checks); but currently we do a rotation, and I prefer it immensely. Each person whose child regularly attends nursery was asked to take a turn. Then, the nursery coordinator was able to fill in a few more volunteers who didn't have children, but didn't mind serving, since it's only once every 8 weeks.
Others have had great success with hiring members of the community, knowing that an added benefit is the workers were hearing the weekly message and songs of praise over the P.A. system -- something they might not otherwise be hearing on Sunday morning.
The husband of one pastor's wife on our forums had a unique solution to the lack of volunteers in the nursery. He wasn't in the sanctuary at the beginning of the church service one morning, and when it was time to start, his voice came over the p.a. system. He said he was watching the nursery today instead of preaching, since no one else thought it was an important ministry. The story is better when she tells it, but needless to say, the volunteers were falling over themselves.
Thoughts From Others
This question generated a great discussion on our online message boards, and many shared helpful insights and tips. One pastor's wife, in recruiting new teachers for their children's church program, created a survey to get a better feel for the interest in teaching. This also gave her an opportunity to find out what needs potential teachers might have, whether it be training, resources, or support.
Here are some other suggestions given by members of our online message board community, posted with their permission:"We used to attend a church of 2,000 that had problems recruiting volunteers, especially for the 0-3 year olds. Once the class was at capacity (kid to worker ratio), a note was put on the door saying, 'This class is full. If you'd like to volunteer, please call ..................' People started signing up pretty quickly after that."The Consensus
"... produced a video and set up a recruiting display in the foyer with a mining theme called, 'Digging for Gold.' We moved shortly after that, but heard all positions were filled for the fall!"
"Sometimes people need training, to shadow someone, to know they're not going to be relied on completely, to know that if they try it and don't like it, they're not stuck..."
"One thing that helped our church was holding a ministry fair one Sunday right after the service. My DH (delightful husband) taught a series on the church and being involved in ministry, he asked the leaders of each ministry to put up a small display advertising the work they did, and placed a sign up sheet at each one. We got quite a few new volunteers--and they are still involved almost two years later." (This idea was inspired by Rick Warren's 40 Days of Purpose campaign.)
"I personally would have to close the nursery, let kids sit in church with the families and combine all Sunday School classes into one (intergenerational) ... I really have been in that situation before -- we have posted that due to the fact there were no workers for the nursery, it would not be staffed. And they do have One Room School Sunday School material so that you can put all the kids in one class. ... I do believe that the need for commitment is a universal problem. It is important that we begin teaching about it to our children and teens because we are just one generation from no Christians. If school/community/sports become the god, where will be world's hope be?"
"One thing that helped our church was holding a ministry fair one Sunday right after the service. My DH (delightful husband) taught a series on the church and being involved in ministry. He asked the leaders of each ministry to put up a small display advertising the work they did, and placed a sign up sheet at each one. We got quite a few new volunteers--and they are still involved almost two years later."
A special thank you goes to everyone who participated in this discussion. Many other thoughts were shared as well, and these three ideas emerged as the consensus opinion of our community:
1. Pray and keep your appeal positive.
2. If necessary, let the congregation experience the consequences of failing to volunteer.
3. Recognize that participating in the community outside the church walls can be a wonderful thing as well.
For a related discussion on a similar topic, please see Encouraging Volunteerism in the "Real Answers from Real Ministry Wives" section of our website.
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Monday, August 06, 2007
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Don't Hide Your Light Under A Bowl!
There's a message there somewhere. We talk about how being in ministry is like living in a glass bowl, a glass house, etc. Today, I read something I've read tons of times before, but somehow it struck me differently this time.
Right after the famous salt verse, Jesus says in Matthew 5:14, "You are the light that gives light to the world. A city that is built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15) And people don't hide a light under a bowl. They put it on a lampstand so the light shines for all the people in the house. 16) In the same way, you should be a light for other people. Live so that they will see the good things you do and will praise your Father in heaven."
It just got me thinking back on a conversation I was having with Exqsme. She was telling me about how Elijah ran and hid, and talked about how God is letting her hide less and less. Don't we all want to hide at times? I know I do. I find myself ducking at times and avoiding people when there's been conflict. It's a shame, because what if the person has issues that God wants to free them from? I sense God wanting me to str-e-e-e-tch. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and maybe it's w-a-a-a-a-y out of context, but I really think God is telling me to stop hiding out in my bowl.
I just get the sense at times that as pw's we're not all we can be because we let others get to us, whether they be well-meaning or deliberately cruel. I feel a calling to break free, once again, and not be bound up by others -- to minister wholeheartedly with my talents and gifts and be oblivious to (wo)man.
originally posted June 13, 2007 by Moose
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Sunday, April 22, 2007
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More than Conquerors!
The life of the Pastor's family has been coming more and more into light recently. Some good has come of it, and some bad. We can all remember when the big ministers fall... we all know about the Pastors' wives who have lost it....
There are the books out there... some really good ones... and some of them I know the authors.. they are wonderful women of God! The books talking about how to make it through being a Pastor's wife.
But you know what, I hate "Make it through, how to endure this lot in your life". To me that's like saying "girl you do NOT want to marry a pastor.. run if you can help it!" I love being the Pastor's Wife. I love my role in ministry.
Now..before you get to thinking "She must be new to this ministry thing...because if she really knew how evil people can be..." Ohhhhh I KNOW how people can be. There are churches out there, that frankly, you won't catch me stepping back into. I have been pushed down, kicked and spat on, figuratively speaking. I have been to a place where I didn't want to go to church anymore and I just felt like this was completely unbearable.
To quote a good friend of mine (Da Moose)..in talking about this very subject "Something can be hard without being hopeless". Being married to a pastor in the ministry is not easy. In fact, we are told that we are being sent out among wolves. Matt 10:16 I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. NIV It is also mentioned that they will beat you in the synagogue (I'll have to look up the verse I can't seem to find it at the moment.) People are going to be mean. It is the sinful nature in them.
We are called to be more than conquerors. Rom 8:35-37 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. NIV
Peter, Paul, etc.. they all faced hardships for bringing the Word of God to the masses. They were heavily persecuted. The pharisees tried to trick Jesus alllllll the time. Why do we get it in our heads that somehow it should be different for us?
Sometimes being a Pastor's Wife stinks. One of the biggest complaints is "They expect me to be perfect". Well Tonight I was reading in Nehemiah. Man, they gave him a hard time. They kept trying to get him sidetracked. They told him lies, accused.. whatever. They even threatened him ..and he simply told them that he was doing what God wanted him to do and he would do nothing else. I love how John Bevere puts it " I have had to look at people and say " Why are you allowing the lies of this person to affect what God has called you to do? Just because he accuses you doesn't mean he's right or he wants the truth! You need to know what God says about you and His plan for you. Why try to reason with foolishness?" Prov 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself. NIV
Do I want to hide sometimes? Most definitely. Should I hide... no. God tells me not to. I am in a position of great responsibility. And with it comes trials and tribulations, battles and heart ache. To ignore that would be silly... BUT I also have great opportunity, I can have the victory and exciting moments too. I am appreciative of the websites I have to connect to other PW's for encouragement, support and ideas...I fully believe it is a necessary outlet and ministry. But let's support one another.. and not just help one another make it through..let's cheer one another on as we run this race as conquerors!
Christa - Florida
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