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Friday, April 25, 2008
 

Part One of a Devotional

the following was written as a result of not being able to put it off much longer.  i've planned on writing this for sometime, and as you'll probably soon encounter, my writing is currently not very concrete.  i would ask for an open mind and a light heart, because most of this, however serious the subject matter may be, is written with a very light heart.  but please consider it, though i doubt i have anything to worry about in the angry email department from my few scattered readers; all of your opinions i respect, or am at least intrigued by (no, it's not you, if you're reading this, it's the other guy), and am just looking for a good discussion.  also, should i post this on facebook, or do you think the masses would have an aneurism upon reading it?  take care, be good, and do good things.  or however the quote goes.

 

 

Musings on God (A Working but Arrogant Title)

 

To begin, He also likes to sleep in.  He’s a fan of resting.  And who isn’t?  I myself am taking nine credit hours this semester.  There are many reasons, but it seems to boil down to a sheer lack of motivation.  Maybe He’s pretty unmotivated himself.  I mean, he’s been watching the same uninteresting archetypes write themselves plotlines ever since a grunt became an acknowledgement, one perchance of hunger.  Then came the prophets, the skeptics, the apologists, the rationalists, the reformers, the “counter-reformers,” and the linguists, the translators, trying to slap sense into everyone.  Lastly, there was Tom Shadyac, who directed Bruce Almighty and had the brilliance to cast Morgan Freeman as El Sol himself.  Good for him.

            I’m both doing everything I can to make this whole argument seem as trivial as it really can be, and trying to get you all to pay close attention to your incessant creeds, your mantras, your yogis, your gitas, and your whathaveyou.   Where do we start?  Let’s ignore Anselm, ignore Aquinas, ignore Paul, ignore even Aristotle.  Let’s take instead the route of those lowly Galilean fishermen, who had the courage to leave a measly dinner every night for the ramblings of a new prophet, and one with (assembly) very low credit at that.  Let’s just say He exists.  Why?  Because it becomes entirely absurd to muse anything on the Almighty without asserting first the He does of course exist, and to move on from there.  Whether He indeed has a penis (a subject of fierce metaphysical debate) I leave to the reader’s own interpretation.  Incidentally, the Hebrew slang for male genitalia is zayin.

            Now what does He do next?  He’s just created the cosmos, and has a few billion years to wait around for Disneyland, or to appear in tortillas; it makes perfect sense for him to do nothing but rest.  To back track, I suppose a second “given” I’m allowing myself to make is to not even acknowledge any form of Theistic fundamentalism.  So I want no fingers pointed, or tongues wagged when I say “billion years” and not “thousand years.”  And I urge you all to read modern science whenever you can, or if motivation in that capacity fails you (I suppose I can’t ask too much too soon), just turn on Nova.  Please.  Moving on.

            We have to unfortunately begin this discussion with a bit of philosophy (I know, I know).  In my eyes the two the major Western (with an emphasis on Christendom) conceptions of God originate from two of Western civilization’s most exemplary figures- Plato and Aristotle.  Plato and Aristotle’s conceptions of God seem to be analogous with much of the debate between (perhaps traditional) Catholics and (perhaps more Calvinistic) Protestants today.  The former seemed to see God as much more anthropomorphic, or personal, human, than the latter, whose now famous “Prime Mover” God shared much in common with the French philosophes Deistic God- impersonal, distant, even Eastern in nature.  Western Protestants, knowingly or not, contribute much of their speculation on God to Plato, and of course later St. Augustine, where Catholic rely more heavily on Aristotle, and the works of St. Thomas Aquinas.  Remember, the key difference is a case of impersonality versus a much more human form.

            Let’s  return to what God actually does, a very restrictive verb, one must admit.  Does he interact, does he feel, does he think, does he will, or doesn’t he?  Does he have a criterion to which we’re all subjected, is there a master plan, a deterministic fate, an end all to end all end alls?  Be careful in your decision making- for to attribute such lowly human functions to God as cognition and will is to diminish the “God factor,” to make him little more than a Bigger and Better us.  And we’re not that great, friends.  Don’t let any religion kid you otherwise.

           

 Posted 4/25/2008 4:50 AM - 6 comments

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I'm going to have to think about this one a bit before I can come up with a good argument or statement.

But I do enjoy reading your thoughts. You give me a different way of looking at the Christ that I claim- and a new look is a good thing. :)

Post this on facebook. See what kind of responses you get. Let people freak out a little bit. It's fun to do that :)
Posted 4/25/2008 8:48 AM by NewDayIsDawning - reply

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I did like it. I could comment (probably) if I wasn't absolutely exhausted. However, I did give it a good read--not a good skim.

I don't know if this is really a response but Milton wrote:

"Well knows he who uses to consider, that our faith and knowledge thrives by exercise, as well as our limbs and complexion. Truth is compared in Scripture to a streaming fountain; if her waters flow not in a perpetual progression, they sicken into a muddy pool of conformity and tradition. A man may be a heretic in the truth; and if he believe things only because his pastor says so, or the Assembly so determines, without knowing other reason, though his belief be true, yet the very truth he holds becomes his heresy."

I personally like this post, because it will (when I have more sleep and time...perhaps this summer?) challenge me to not be a heretic.

I would also like to note that--although I am not Catholic--I subscribe to Augustine's idea that our notions of justice and truth seemingly change with time, because we become more and more capable of understanding God's notion of infinite truth and justice.

Although I think it raises issues that every person, those who proclaim to be faithful and those who do not, should consider, I would think twice about posting it on Facebook. Let's not forget what happened with Travis' post. There was some thoughtful discussion, especially by Rich, Tyler and Brandon, but some reduced it to bickering and dissent. If you're willing to risk the bickering for the sake of thoughtful discussion, that's your choice.
(I would include a preface similar to the one you have here, so that people know they're being invited to think, not challenged to defend.)

I'm taking a nap now.
Posted 4/25/2008 1:20 PM by sanfranmntyluver - reply

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This tasted a little sour : ). I really enjoyed the rawness of it. Sometimes when things just spill out without truly being thought to be put in a more eloquent or less, i don't know.... maybe I'll come up with a better word later... is when a thought is best. If you were to post this on facebook though, I might consider revising it. The tone of this could be taken as lighthearted or as judgmental and overly critical of a belief they may hold quite dear. Please don't revise this one here though. I really enjoyed it. I think it's important to challenge people in their beliefs. Some people get so comfortable in what they've come to know as truth that they forget to question. It is important for a person to have to defend their version of truth to really define themselves. If you post it on facebook could you invite me please? I'm sure the results would be quite entertaining : ).
Posted 4/25/2008 2:13 PM by barefoot_on_the_beach1689 - reply

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I didn't really explain myself of the whole revising for facebook thing. If people take this as judgmental and dark sarcasm as opposed to the lightheartedness that you intended they'll probably be more defensive and less likely to simply have a discussion. It's entirely up to you though
Posted 4/25/2008 2:20 PM by barefoot_on_the_beach1689 - reply

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oh my god. yes. thank you.

Posted 4/25/2008 11:49 PM by pressedfortime - reply

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also, your headline is my favorite plath poem of all time, and if i'd seen it two seconds sooner i wouldn't have wasted your time with two comments.
Posted 4/25/2008 11:50 PM by pressedfortime - reply


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