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Monday, November 29, 2004

read my argument for equality among the sexes!  here's a poem too  (by the way for all of you who wonder why I don't fallen a certain form, its because I believe it ruins artistic expression to be confined to a certain amount of space, not that i haven't read good poetry with form...) 

lost and alone in a black empty room

searching for anything, at the end of this road

swirling confusion in my lonely mind

dark blurry poetry flows from inside

will I ever feel peace again?

but there is a light at the end of this tunnel

I reach and I cry but I can't understand

yet I hear your voice calling "just take my hand"

I reach out in faith and your blood covers me

then I'm not by myself, in this white, empty room...

 

 

 

hey guys, I'm about to write my whole deal about masculinity and femininity, and equality among the sexes.  Mrs. Grady Im gonna try to incorporate my answer to your comment within this entry.  For everyone who did not get what I said last time, here it is and following that will be my defense

hey guys.  sorry its been a while, and it'll probably be another couple days. but I do know what the next topic is, and its equality among the sexes, which I have VERY strong opinions in that area.  and they are not what we've been learning in world view class...or at least some.  give me your ideas about masculinity and femininity and certain issues.  here's some quick thoughts, give me yours.  A women could and can be a president, a women SHOULD vote according to what she thinks!    not what her father or husband thinks.  be careful before you break out submission on me, disagreement is not rebellion!  a women can work and a man can stay at home.  guys can have long hair, wear earings, and other "jewlery"  just make sure it partains to a guy and doesn't cause confusion about the gender.  guys can cook!  we can wear clothes that have no gender distinction, once again we probably should make sure we still know whether your a guy or girl though.  haha.  well tell em what you think and I'll defend 

 

Ok here's the defense my friends

In today's post modern society, we are taught everything is relative (which I will totally abolish in a later entry) including out genders.  guys act like girls and girls act like guys.  Is this wrong, in some cases definately!  you reach an identity crisis and no longer know what or who you are if you take equality of the sexes to its extremes.  however, before we decide if guys are acting "feminine" or if girls are acting "masculine"  we must decide what are and are not characteristics for those two different genders.    In Christian society or in what I consider conservative Christian society, (Southern Baptist, some presbyterian, some baptists, reformed church, blah, blah)  one of the main women's characteristic  is "submissive"  which she should be but so should the man.  (this is all relating in a marriage or father-daughter relationship)  and "submission" has pretty much put a rope around the wifes neck to do what the husband wants.  now for some granted, they happily follow their husbands lead, and I have no protest whatsoever against them.  But I also have no qualms whith many people I know who have voted and acted differently than spouses.  I said it earlier, disagreement is not unsubmission or rebellion, its simply a differing opinion.  Unsubmission would be forcing the opinion on their husband or vis versa.  I dont believe a husband is submitting to his wife by telling her she must vote a certain way, in fact I believe thats unsubmissive.  now out of respect and trust, there is no problem with a wife voting the way her husband does because she trust his opinion.  However, if her opinion differs, the husband should trust her knowledge and wisdom to make the correct decision for herself.  Yes you are one flesh, but Im telling you if I married a michigan fan I wouldn't expect her to trust her husband's leadership and change over to Ohio State.  Now hopefully whoever you marry your not gonna have big disagreements with, like I wouldn't marry someone who supported abortion and therefore would vote for a democrat every year so babies could be killed.  I know opinions might differ slightly.  and keep in mind that most married couples (not all)  will vote on the presidential candidate the same because democrats and republicans are so opposite, so naturally you'll probably marry someone who holds very strong beliefs politically that are very much the same as yours.  If they differ slightly I could care less if when Im married my wife votes for a different republican primary or whatever party is good then.  If she votes for a democrat, there may be some dosagreement, but Im sure I would love my wife, and could not feel that I was in the right by making her vote the way I wanted her too.  It simply reduces a woman (now once again if you support total agreement with your husband, Im not coming after you, this is more for guys who have legalistic ego problems)   to something of lower status than you.  which is not true!  your on equal level.  sure your made differntly physically, emotionally, and mentally.  though man nor woman is not better in any case,  but if you use somethiong to discriminate against the opposite sex, its a wrong characteristic.  A woman has knowledge, and I will trust her to vote according to her knowledge and wisdom.  If she asks me for mine, i'll give it.  buit I wont force it down.  (o this is mainly going after guys being discriminating against women right now but don't worry ladies, your turn is coming!  haha!)  ok.  enough with the voting I've done my best to make my case on that.  but I want everybody.  Ephesians 5:22 says wives submit to your husbands, but the verse right before says submit yourselves to one another.  So we ALL are to practice submission.  not just women.  Its a characteristic of both genders.  That is why I believe a woman could be presiden t, now she would have to submit herself to her husband, that does mean do everthing he thinks.  submission is different than obedience.  don't think Im saying I or anyone else should disobey their parents.  but correct me if Im wrong, a wife's relationship to her husband is not as a child's relationship to his or her father.  If it is there'd be a ten commandment about it.  Submission isn't the same as obedience.  Ok, president.  she could be, because she is not unequal in intelligence or knowledg of good and wrong.  you can say she'll be more emotional than a man, that may be a good thing.  God made her that way its not a fault that they are emotional, jsut as its not a fault for some guys to be pretty emotional.  They are stable enough for the job, but they do need help, just like a man does.  this whole thing on woman voting and being president or whatever goes the same in I believe, everything.  not just voting  ok, I'll finish this in a little bit regarding dress wear, and how women have discriminated against men.  talk to you in a little bit, for now Im done with the whole voting women submission deal.

Ok  guys here we go on dresswear, this should only take a second.  I have no problem with guys with piercings, longhair, or wearing undefined gender clothing.  undefined gender clothing to me is like jeans that are straight (girls wear them adn guys wear them)  personally I don't like the whole guy wearing bell bottom thing, make sure people can tell your a guy if you wear them.  sweatshirts are fine for both, jean jackets, some t-shirts, just make sure you don't wear what are specifically girl clothes or waht are specific guy clothes and you'll be good.  modesty is  a whole different issue, jsut make sure you don't reveal too much and don't purposely bring negative attention to yourself.  I'll go after that in a later entry, so don't worry about it either way.  you guys don't know my opinion, but as usual it is nothing like most of the world view's class probably.  but yeah later.  jsut make sure people can tell your a guy and not a girl, tahts the main deal here.  Im wearing a t-shirt that my girlfriend could wear and people would still know the difference between our genders no problem, there would be no question.

ok, now heres the deal with some women discriminating against men.  by the way I totally do not think this about probably any of the girls who read this entry...but do know Im not the onlyu one who thinks this way, guys do feel mistreated by this fad that's flowing through society.  In society, tv shows, commercials, movies, home, and church there is a very arrogant discrimnatory girl power kick fad...I joke about it a lot but I really do believe there is a problem with this.  I believe it is an act of unsubmission.  In all of things such as tv and church mentioned above, men are made to look stupid, arrogant, unsensitive, and totally thinking about how twecan take a girls heart and break it.  which is not true!  according to society  that's our goal, we're nothing good unless woman makes us something good.  women say they can do anything better than men, I've heard constantly women saying they need to "fix" the man in their life, like the man is just stupid and totally depends on a female partner.  woman can do stuff better than man and vis versa, but its arrogant and frankly just sexist to walk around trying to show up the opposite sex.  Our goal is not to take you home have sex and break your heart.  We love, we feel, we hurt, we think, and we care, same as you.    we're not a helpless dog, that has a sick mind and is totally trying to take away your heart.  Its degrading to men and frankly women degrade themselves when they act arrogant and give this girl take over the world mentality, because "if we let men lead us it only lead to hurt and trouble."  Its not true, and its wrong and sadly its not only in our tv and "secular" society, its in our churches.  This is an act of unsubmission I believe, jsut like it would be for a men to have a male power deal.

So for both genders, let me encourage you to treat the other gender as equals, they may be made up differently, but we deseerve the same respect and SUBMISSION as the other, girls stop acting like all guys are arrogant, sleezy, unsensitve, helpless,and stupid.  get off the girl power kick because it ticks ALL guys off, and shows arrogance and is wrong.  Guys stop giving them reason to..  (now that CANT be an excuuse for you girls because lot sof guys are  NOT AT ALL like that)  treat women with respect and submission guys, they are a precious gift to us, they're our gift, we shoudl be theirs as well.  sexism is alive and well in the church, and its not a Godly charecteristic.  we share this worlde and eachother, respect and submit yourselves one to another.

 


Monday, November 22, 2004

hey guys.  sorry its been a while, and it'll probably be another couple days. but I do know what the next topic is, and its equality among the sexes, which I have VERY strong opinions in that area.  and they are not what we've been learning in world view class...or at least some.  give me your ideas about masculinity and femininity and certain issues.  here's some quick thoughts, give me yours.  A women could and can be a president, a women SHOULD vote according to what she thinks!    not what her father or husband thinks.  be careful before you break out submission on me, disagreement is not rebellion!  a women can work and a man can stay at home.  guys can have long hair, wear earings, and other "jewler"  just make sure it partains to a guy and doesn't cause confusion about the gender.  guys can cook!  we can wear clothes that have no gender distinction, once again we probably should make sure we still know whether your a guy or girl though.  haha.  well tell em what you think and I'll defend  


Tuesday, November 16, 2004

 

 

Read the poem at the end of this entry

My links are in the review section!  I also have my reviews of Jump Little Children so check them out! 

 

Hey guys, whats goin on?  Hope everybody enjoyed my last deep thought session or whatever, feel free to read it again and send me any comments.  (Its on witnessing for all those who did not read it)  Ummmm...I put some reviews up today, I think I will edit my profile a bit and, I will hopefully in a little bit put some thoughts into this on top of what I have already done just now.  My topic will be secular and Christians music.  Typical?  maybe. you'll have to check back.  Just to get you interested, I listen to secular music, Jump Little Children the best band in the world is a secular band, and I believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with secular music.  Yes there is with some but not secular in general.  Christian music today also is not always good to listen too and some of it just flat out stinks.  I will put my recomendations for music in this one and also some in my reviews.  My reviews of Jump Little Children are in, so check em out!  Go to their webstie and listen to their music.  www.jumphq.com Ill send out my philosophy on Secular vs Christian music on whether one is better than the other, both are ok, or just one is.  Hint_ secular music is ok!  so is christian!  both have exceptions.   

 

Ok here it is.  My bashing of legalistic, hypocritical....ha just kidding guys.  Maybe. 

For everyone who reads this know that I am not going crazy on the people who bash people who listen to secular music, but am supporting why I do what I do and showing why your judegements are wrong.  someone in a extreme harsh way, (its jsut to get my point across)  First and foremost I listen to Secular music and enjoy it. I find no harm whatsoever in what I have chose to listen to.  This support of what I do is not for those who have made a personal decision that they should stay away from secular music, but for those who think EVERYONE should stay away from secular music and are going to try to convince everyone of that.  My first words to people who think it is wrong and is conforming to the world to listen to secular music are these:  If I ever see you in a movie theatre watching a SECULAR movie I will take my favorite Bible and smack you in the face and tell you your just like the smoking, reveal too much body, cussing punk sitting behind you.  Now make sure everybody understands that I have no problem with secular movies, only people who say secular music is wrong and deny it with other secular forms of entertainment.   Its a paradox, contradiction, and a hypocritical action.  If you are going to bash secular music you better bash Garfield, Fox News, Huntsville Times, The Patriot, and anything else secular.  You better wake up and eat your wheat that you grew in your backyard (cheerios are not made by a church) turn on your Christian TV watch Billy Graham, and read the your church newsletter.  I hope you made all your furniture too, because non-christians buy that and you'd be conforming if you sat and enjoyed the same thing they did right?  well in all reality I beg to differ.  call my examples above extreme, but I believe people who say it is wrong for me to listen to secular music are being extreme.  Now my argument above is defiantely not enough, though it should be.  People will twist scripture, morality, and themselves to convince you that secular music is bad.  While they honestly may be doing it with good intentions, it does not work. (please understand that I really don't hate my friends who actually do this but am trying to get my point across, I love you guys and I'm being a bit dramatic) If you say I am conforming by listening to music could you please back itup?  Conforming is changing your ways with the intention of acting like somebody or something else.  That is not at all what I and many people are doing when they listen to secular music.  Honestly its because they enjoy the music.  (Everybody keep in mind that the rest of this is if you totally ignore the argument that is at the beginning of the hehe, argument I guess)  I enjoy secular bands, and I do not have a problem.  I am appreciating lyrical talent, musical talent when I listen to music.  Now don't even go with me on the fact that music today including Christian rock is rebellious, because nothing scriptural will support that.  Blaming music for rebelliousness is retarted, balme who's to blame, yourself.  If I ever hear again that it's because of the music that girls take off their clothes, guys flick their friends off, and everyone is high and drunk, I'll hit the nearest wall as hard as I can.  (No not really, lol, I'll just think about it)  Take some responsibility.  It would be your fault.  Music does naturally compel you to do stuff, but I tell you if you take the most sacred hymn and play it by itself without words Im not gonna fall and worship God, Im going to feel an emotion.  That is what music does is stimulate emotions.  Words regualte emotions.  If I play an angry sounding song, you might fieel the energy and anger, add angry words, you'll feel justified in feeling that way.  Add words that show you were angry but there is a hope, you feel a little more resolution.  Now I personally do not listen to alternative scream your head off rock, I think there is no musical talent whatsoever in most of that music.  But I do not judge those who enjoy it.  We are not conforming to the world anymore than you are when you watch Mission Impossible.  We have a different taste in music.  Another reason we listen to secular music is the MAJORITY of Christian music is shallow lyrically and musically.  3 guitar chords and remakes of "You Are My King" are really getting old.  If anybody is conforming it is the Christian music industry.  You slap worship on the label, people will buy it.  If it's played on WAYFM people will buy it.  Now yes people enjoy it and are therefore not conforming, but my reasons for not lsitening to WAYFM and some christian music is it lacks any substacne.  I hardly ever hear peotically moving Christian music unless nobody's heard of it.  Granted it's the same in the SECULAR music world, if it's not played on the radio you won't buy it, and most of it's pretty shallow.  Types of secular music I stay away from is anything that is hateful and angry.  I do not feel called to that kind of music.  It tears people apart.  There is music with lyrics that are racist, about sex, drugs, and murder that I will not listen to.  Morality is in music.  But if you watch Good Morning America just like the satanist across the street, your not morally wrong. I think you get the point.  Conforming is not acting like the world, it is becoming part of the world to PLEASE the world.  Not everyone is doing that by listening to secular music.  So be careful before you tell people that you can't do that.  Here is some good music to listen to.  If it has something questionmable skip that song ok?  its just like watching a movie with a cuss word, you don't apply that to your entertainment taste.  Its simple.  Let me know what you think. 

Good Secular Music With Substance in Music and Lyrics  (there is more of course this is just waht Jonathan listens too.  haha )

Jump Little Children  www.jumphq.com  www.ezchiefrecords.com

Oasis (One of those British Invasions Kaitlyn talks about on her site)

Lifehouse (you can out this in either category really, they write both Christian and Secular)

Radiohead

Coldplay

French Kicks

All American Rejects

Yellowcard

Hot Hot Heat

The Strokes

Dave Matthews

Ben Harper

3 Doors Down (maybe a little typical, but really good)

Seether

 

Christian Music Choices

 

Relient K  www.relienk.com

MXPX

Switchfoot (accept they don't say much about God, they really are conformists, but incredible musicians)

FM Static

Casting Crowns

Sean Groves (This man simply needs an acoustc guitar to put on an incredible show, yes he's typical but not after you see him live)

Jars of Clay

Anything under Tooth & Nail records is incredibly poetic and talented.  Check out the site, I'm not sure what it is but jsut do a yahoo search or something.

 

The safe place, where peace never fails

a secure place, where faith will rise again

The humbling place, I bow on my knees

an empty place, I feel your arms around me

The beautiful place, the light comes through the stained glass windows

a silent place, I wait and I listen

The perfect place, the sanctuary

Will my life ever be like that?

 


Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Xanga

Hey guys.  Hmmmm...what to put first.  How about a quick thought about different beliefs and people coming together.  All my Christian buddies hang in there with me and read the whole thing before you think I believe in relativity and the post modern view.  I believe in absolute truth, but I also believe we're supposed to respect one another and their beliefs.  What is the absolute truth?  I believe the Bible, but not just because I've decided to believe but after questioning for a long period of time and researching I found that for me, God is the answer.  I think he is the answer for everyone but that is not for me to decide.  Have you ever thought about the idea that the concept of witnessing might actually cause more damage than good?  Today it is preached that we are to go out and tell the world what is absolute, that anything other than Christianity is wrong, and that if you don't except it your going to hell.  In all reality there is probably one of three responses:  They either have a belief already and won't except yours, they will be pushed away by the arrogance that you think you are absolutely right and they are absolutely wrong, or they will be scared into "believing" and never truly believe.  Yeah we're not convincing many if we get those responses.  Now that may not be the case everytime but it is most of the time.  People believe in Christianity most of the time because they went to church and liked what they heard and it clicked for them, or its what they've done all their life, or they've logically worked it out for themselves, or last of all because they were looking for something and God gave it to them.  It ussually doesn't happen by a Christian beating them over the head with the arrogance of belief.  I believe witnessing is sharing, not telling.  You share what you believe with others and they share or witness right back.  You need to go in willing and hoping to learn something from them just as they may learn something from you.  Sharing philosophies, and theologies, without a boastful statement that "they are wrong," will go over a lot more.  You also must understand someabout why you believe what you believe.  If I walked up to somebody and told them they needed God, would they just accept Him?  No.  I would need to be able to tell them why, and why my God can logically exist.  Without respect for the individual and knowledge for what you believe, "witnessing" will fail.  You need to share and be willing to learn about what they believe too.  There is no need to find a mormon, muslim, or new ager, and blast them with waht you believe because they have found what they are loking for.  But by all means tell them what you found, and on the same token, let them tell you what they found.  And share your beliefs just the same as you share the world.  Realize their perspective may be different.  Religions and denominations have come about as a result of being pushed away from someone else's.  Think about why isn't their one church denomination?  Because we have condemned others beliefs.  That is why there are certain churches that have started so that homosexuals have a place to go to church.  That is why churches have been started for those who believe in the book of mormon as well as the Bible.  Because they were condemned.  There are so many differnet beliefs that can but but never will come together because of intolerance to certain individuals.  It's just as wrong as racism.  We won't let people enter our circles because they read Romans a little differently or live a certain lifestyle.  Maybe the lifestyle is wrong or the belief is wrong, but without respect and tolerance for that individual they will never see the truth.  Never.  Tolerance is the key.  Now admitting they are right isn't neccasary if it's not true.  But don't tell them their wrong jsut tell them why you think your right.  Condemnation will turn people away.  That is the goal of condemnation.  Love and tolerance pulls people closer.  That is the purpose of love and tolerance.  There must be absolute truth but condemning what may not be will get us no where.  Because everybody believes what they believe just as strongly as you.  The mormon that walks through your neighborhood probably believe his message stonger than yours because he's the one walking door to door.    Nobody believes stronger than the muslims who crahsed into the two twoers in New York because they believed they were supposed according to their God.  It's going to take a lot more to reach people than intolerance.  You must reverse and practice tolerance.  I don't care if you think homosexuality is wrong or right,  secualr music is wrong or right, Christianity is the only way, Mormanism is the only way, you won't convince me unless your simply telling me what you found without trying to condemn what I believe.  I probably won't even listen.  So yeah, think about witnessing the next few daysa and bringing people together adn tell me what you think 




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