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Monday, August 28, 2006
 

B.S. list II

What with it being right in the middle of the election campaigns I figured it was way past time for me to do another BS list post.
A bit of a warning though. If you are Ultra left or right politically don't bother reading this post. I can already tell you, you won't like it.
Also if you comment with even more BS then you will be made fun of, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!! Also a quick note: This time Republican BS is in the red Democrat BS is in the blue. On to the post.
 
If you're against the war you're unpatriotic.
 
This has been the most common piece used by the far right since 9/11. Now if you want to believe that stupid line, then fine. But most Americans will heartily disagree with you, and for good reason.
 
In this country it is not only permissible to question you leaders, it is your duty. Sure most people only question the leaders of the opposing party but that's their fault not mine and hopefully not yours.
 
In fact questioning ones leaders is exactly what founded this country. It was when a group of English colonists stood and asked, "Is the king really being fair, or should we govern ourselves."
 
We vote for our leaders because they are responsible to us, not for us. Also it should be noted that if vast majority Americans disagree with you on this subject then that makes you the more unpatriotic one.
 
Note: Treason BTW is defined as aid, and support the enemy, not questioning our own leadership.
 
The war in Iraq is going well.
 
Very few people actually buy into that one at this point. Sure the liberation went extraordinarily well. And we did get rid of a brutal dictator who was committing terrible atrocities against his own people. But seriously.
 
After three years of IED's rising death tolls and the New York times griping most people are agree we're pretty much stuck. It's no longer just the Micheal Moore wing and Hypocritical pacifists who are feeling this way. Most moderates and even several conservatives are agreeing.
 
I predicted months ago that the next president whether a democrat or Republican will be elected on a Get-out-of-Iraq ticket. That is well on it's way to coming true. Add to that Cal Thomas (A well known conservative) has spoken in many recent articles about the "Failed media war"
 
Only the true believers and Ann Coulter at this point believe the war is going well.
 
A vote a republican is a vote for war profiteering, corruption, and fascism.
 
In a world of bumper-sticker-philosophy Oldman's phrase (To me from last week) is certainly a major challenge. It just overlooks the fact that Democrats are just as guilty of war profiteering as the Republicans.
 
Lets start with the oil for food scandal since that is my most knowledgeable of recent scandals. Here are a few of the Democratic senator's who have taken money from a person or group who partook in the Kickbacks and massive money laundering going across Iraq in the 90's.
 
Clinton, Levin, Kennedy, Rockefeller, Reed, Kohl, and Wyden were all doing business with connections to the Al Mada list. Totaling more than Twenty million dollars not counting what went straight to the DNC.
 
Now it's anyone's guess as to how much of that is illegal money in and of itself. Especially since the Bush administration refuses to investigate. So much for politics, no!
 
Also guess which company was on the top ten of the GAO's investigation into the scandal starting with the Al Mada list. Global crossing a huge financial supporter of the DNC and many democratic candidates.
 
Speaking of Global crossing did you not notice that there was a huge and very Enron like scandal there in 2002. You might not because the New York Times never even reported it. Why? Once again senators Clinton and Kennedy profited huge from it.
 
In New London a group of homeowners were thrown out of their homes for a wealthy land developer who wanted to build a shopping mall. Guess who voted to kick the home owners out. Democratic court nominees Breyer and Ginsberg.
 
Then we can go on to the money Clinton made from his pardons, White water, Berkstreet, and on, and on and on......
 
You'd have to be nut's to truly believe the Democrats and Republicans are not sleeping in the same bed. Fortunately more and more people are waking up by the day. their days are numbered.
 
Jesus was conservative
 
Where to start on this one? Jesus would not have been for huge corporations or government super powers according to I Corinthians greed is a sin. Same goes with people owning big houses and flashy cars, Gluttony is a sin Prov 28.
 
Jesus told his followers to pay their taxes and look out for the poorest among them. And never once did Jesus jump on someones case for who they were sleeping with. In fact he blasted a group of Pharisees for picking on a woman who was caught in the very act of adultery.
 
Jesus hung out with tax collectors and sinners so much he was accused of being a drunken party animal. Why would Jesus do this? you may ask. Because the health don't need a doctor, the healthy do. Does that sound like a conservative or evangelical to you?
 
Finally Jesus' description of his followers sounded a little something like this. "I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was naked and you clothed me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.
 
That doesn't even sound like most Americans to me. Huh!!!
 
Jesus was a pacifist
 
I've been meaning to do this as a response to one of Max's posts for months. For some reason he chose to post about me back in June. I just have been waiting for a cool off period before verbally running him through.
 
You see it's bad enough when conservatives try to use Jesus as a vote getter, but it's ten times worse when it's a liberal that does it, because of all people liberals should know better.
 
Jesus Was born in the middle of a conquered nation during an insurgence. It should be noted that all this was going on within a stone's throw of his front door. Yet Jesus never once called for a cease fire or escalation. His opponents often tried to get him to take sides so as to manipulate his execution or cause his followers to abandon him. But he never did.
 
Jesus had included in his inner circle warriors, (Simon the zealot) traitors, (Mathew the tax collector) even dreaded Pharisees. (Nicodemus) You see Jesus' life must be looked at as much for his in-actions as much his actions. He never blasted any of these people for their affiliations.
 
He did not oppose nor support any of the empires freedom-fighters or political parties of the day. Paul reports that he said his kingdom was a heavenly one, the writer of Mathew confirms that he told Pilate himself this.
 
John reports he told his disciples "give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar, give to god what belongs to God" The writer of Thomas confirms this and gives it a greater context that he wasn't just talking about money but spiritual things as well. "Give to me what is mine!"
 
Jesus sent his followers into the world to feed the hungry, nurse the sick, and visit the prisoners in jail (Matt 25) He told his followers to carry a soldier's pack even beyond what the law demanded (Matt 6) and even healed a general's son.
 
Most important what do you really think Jesus would say of today's pacifist when they spit on a soldiers uniform, call a republican a "Baby-killer" Do those sound like the acts Jesus would approve? 
 
 
The voters voted Lieberman out.
 
This one has been Scotty's and Oldman's favorite bitch lately. It disappoints me too because my Grandfather used to tell me of a time when the Democrats were a party of inclusion. Not blind adherence. 
 
Lieberman was not fired by the people of Connecticut (Only 8% of voters voted in the primary, that is very typical of primaries) He was fired from the Democratic party who used politics to rig the primary. (Moderates rarely win primaries without help)
 
Now that ALL the registered voters in Connecticut can have their say the Democrats want him to drop out? How is that Democracy. Let Lieberman run if your clone is what Connecticut wants then they'll vote for him.
 
Lieberman was kicked out because he said what he truly believed. Just like how McCarthy took on "Unloyal" Republicans in the 1950's the Micheal Moore wing fixed the primary in Connecticut so that Lieberman would loose.
 
Scotty says Joe Lieberman was kicked out for voting in support of giving president authority in Iraq. but the record shows that Clinton and Kerry both made the exact same vote. Oldman said it was for the patriot act and renewal, But again Hilary and Edwards made the exact same votes. (Maybe Kerry did to I can't find his vote on the records I have)
 
Despite all this Lieberman is still staying true to these Democratic traitors and says he will continue to caucus with the Democrats after the election should he win. But their message to him is clear, "Your not welcomed in the democratic party if you're going to speak your mind!"
 Posted 8/28/2006 12:35 PM - 7 comments

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Good points about Jesus. I don't like it much when people use Christ as a political rallying point too much because, from what I've read, Jesus stayed very unpolitical. Even when confronted directly with politics (paying Roman taxes, interpretation of adultery law), Jesus gave no real direct answer. Instead, He used it as an opprotunity to teach a spiritual lesson instead ("give to God what is God's," and "he who is without sin may cast the first stone.") Even issues of abortion and gay marriage, which seem very religiously charged, are not directly tied to Christianity, as the Bible never speaks on the legal implications of either topics.

I do want to point out one small thing about your first discussion. Even though I agree that we should always question our leaders and would never call a war dissenter "unpatriotic," I do believe that mass dissent and conflicting media messages effect the war effort negatively. I say this for a few reasons. First, just logicing things out, it seems to me that, if the war was fully supported by the public, there would be much less cause for guerrillas to continue fighting in Iraq, since the only hope they really have of victory is for America to get tired of fighting, like in Vietnam. Mainly, though, I speak up because of something an actual soldier told me last summer when I was in Allentown, PA. There, I frequented the local Blockbuster and got to know the employees pretty well. One of the employees, I came to find, had fought in Iraq and, because he spoke Persian Farci, saw a lot of the "hot" zones. When I asked him about the war, he got pretty angry about how the negative things the media was saying only served to lower morale and get other soldiers killed over there. In conclusion, I do not say that it is wrong to question the war; only that there is something to be said for supporting our troops.

And one small, nitpicky thing: the "Jesus was a pacifist" topic ought to be in blue. Just thought I'd mention that.
Posted 8/28/2006 3:37 PM by mdawg6448 - reply

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Good post. No complaints from me. Praise only. BTW how was your weekend?
Posted 8/28/2006 6:46 PM by pigsareflyin - reply

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What pray-tell is your way of dealing with the Republicans and Democrats if they are both the same??? I don't think they are but this is your assertion. If nothing else balance is a good thing and will keep them both in check. You beleive they are one in the same Both fascist (think I have covered this one very well). The key to our governemt is checks and balances. You are obviously against this and figure Ahh...give it all to the Repubs.. It makes no difference anyway.

If Repubs could convince most people of this, they will have won. They won you over I see.

Posted 8/28/2006 6:55 PM by tendollar4ways - reply

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*smile* Reminds me of a favorite saying of my Dad's. He called them BS Merchants.
Posted 8/28/2006 7:59 PM by James Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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I'd have to say that I don't disagree with the vast majority of what you said. 
Posted 8/29/2006 9:03 AM by warweasel Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Interesting post. I will not have time to respond fully.  I'm almost late for a dental appointment.  Have a great day.
Posted 8/29/2006 10:47 AM by jrmaxwell Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Good post.
I'm with you 100 percent about the dems being just as bad as the repubs. Ultra right vs. ultra left, they're all the same bunch of gang mentality having power and money hungry evil bastards.
Posted 8/29/2006 12:14 PM by supanamja Xanga True Member - reply


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