Yet, let's have a country-western summer camp...WOOHOO GO RANCH! Guess you're an island fan huh? I miss WOL, I miss it alot. I'm praying for you guys, for your ministry to the students. Tell me, how's the new library coming along? I'll be up in June for a day, if you guys are around I'll stop by and say hi.

I think apathy does not fault in the leaders, it faults in the crew. Look at Luke when it was a long hot day and the apostles hadn't caught a thing and Christ said to them go launch out into the deep and cast down your nets. Peter replies, "since you have said it I will do it". Resulting in them having to release some their enormous catch.

But this idea has been keeping my tired self going, "God's Glory, it's everything." I finally came to the conclusion that the reason jews and gentiles were allowed to recieve the good news was and is for God's greater glory. They had done nothing of their own merit. Which leads me to this question, "God deserves to glorified, no doubt about that, but why does he need glorified?"

Oh by the way I have been thinking loads about the BI. I keep changing my mind every time I talk to some one. I have come to the conclusions, that you guys are dispensational and not Calvinists. I think God wants to use me in a dramatic way, I'm sure. I do know 98% of BI people have their feet shod in the gospel of peace. So I am still not sure if God's predetermined will for me includes the Bible Institute. But He will be exalted not matter what His plan is!

I think you are confused. It is not Luke but John and I don't think the disciples were apathetic.

Consider this - does the group take on the spirit of its leader?

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What are some specific Bible verses that I could share with someone that's struggling with apathy?

^ I don't say this to try to affect your question. I'd like to know verses too. I just wonder... do we 'struggle' with apathy? I think if I am apathetic, then I've already given in and there is no struggle. If there is a struggle, well, or either way... maybe my problem lies somewhere deeper than 'apathy?'

Someone who is apathetic is someone who has died inside because they quit feeding themselves spiritual food; or maybe their stomach is full of sin so they aren't 'hungry' anyway.

hey Phil got a site...kinda needs some friends...it's xanga.com/northernredneck

I really wish I could come visit everyone. I don't have the means to right now though. I miss everyone and WOLBI so much!!! I hope everything is going well.